A guide to FIRE: Financial Independence, Retire Early šŸ–ļø

Weā€™re big fans of indexing & weā€™ve explained the benefits lots of times. We also want to give people a choice of investing in individual companies too, which they may choose to do because they believe in the companyā€™s prospects / like their brand or for all sorts of other reasons. So I think that itā€™s overly simplistic to brand investing in individual stocks as ā€˜very dangerousā€™.

In the future, weā€™ll also add more tools to the app to enable users to see how well diversified their portfolio is, compare it with benchmarks etc. to help give people the information that they need in order to avoid taking too much risk.

In the meantime weā€™ve created a whole series of posts explaining the principles of investing, you can see them in our Introductory wiki šŸ£.

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But not enough. Please go vote for the essentials!

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Letā€™s not forget that there are significant risks involved in doing this. If it was easy then everyone would but itā€™s definitely not a sure thing.

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New investors and seasoned investors are welcome

Thereā€™s room for everyone

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As you say, the question to ask is whether I can identify and exploit that mispricing. My feeling is that for the vast majority of retail investors (including me), the stock market should be considered simultaneously pretty efficient (from my point of view the stock market participants are LeBrons, Oā€™Sullivans and Williamses) and random (I have no special insight into why prices are changing or what direction theyā€™ll go).

If I buy Twilio (or Freetrade) and it goes up, have I been smart or lucky? Honestly, I canā€™t tell.

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For most people this would get very emotional :sob:

Wouldnā€™t that depend on what your reasoning was?

Are they exclusive? Canā€™t you be smart, and lucky? Or smart, and unlucky?

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Youā€™re right, they can be both. I suppose Iā€™m just wary of taking it as evidence of skill :slight_smile:

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Do you want to know what I really like about what you just said? Itā€™s a rethorical question. Iā€™ll tell you anyway: it seems to me you are well aware of the borders of your circle of competence and you navigate the waters within those borders.

Do you want to know a secret? Another rethorical question. In the realm of principle it seems to me youā€™re doing exactly what Warren Buffet does: staying within your circle of competence. And as long as you stay there the chances are you will succeed. And I hope you do. Specially with your Freetrade investment :wink:

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The BBCā€™s getting involved here, with a slightly questionable story -

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No YOLO call options for them. Would be funny if the BBC was promoting YOLO call options.

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Weekly Options is the quickest way to FIRE, but you will go broke 99% of the time trying that.

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Financial Independence - Yes
Retiring Early - No (when you enjoy/love what youā€™re doing)

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They made a documentary about this. Playing with FIRE.

Playing with FIRE: The Documentary (Official Trailer) - YouTube

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Visual representation of a stop loss.

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Seems like it helps to have a partner!

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Indeed.

From 2004 to 2013, he and his wife lived on one income while essentially stashing away the other.

Thatā€™s the secret right there, end of. Itā€™s no different from articles about young people whoā€™ve managed to save and buy a house - 99% of the time the secret is a parent helped them (either directly, by giving money; or indirectly, by letting them live rent-free), or they got an inheritance.

And the thing that connects all of these is, theyā€™re no reproducable lessons that people wanting to do the same thing can learn from. Donā€™t have a partner? You canā€™t do it. Have a partner but you canā€™t live off one salary alone? You canā€™t do it. Parents donā€™t want to help you/canā€™t help you? You canā€™t do it.

I mean, Iā€™m glad for this guy that he got to achieve his goal, but he lucked out having a partner who bought in to what he wanted to do.

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I think there are lessons to be learned - people donā€™t have to do exactly the same thing, but they can do something similar, apply ideas which will work for their situation.

That could be retiring not at 33 like Justin did but later, eg 40s or 50s, but still far earlier than normal retirement age of mid/late 60s.

Not got a partner? Thereā€™s always the option to look for one! :two_hearts:

That said, some can do it alone - the blogger of Fire the 9 to 5 is one example - enjoying FIRE now in her mid-40s, single parent with two kids:

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There was a good article in The Guardian on this today.

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The article is actually disingenuous as itā€™s not an ā€˜engineerā€™ that retired early, itā€™s an engineer and his wife, which doubles the income.

So for a single person it should be achievable for them to hit half of the result, which is still not bad.

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