Tesla Inc - TSLA - Share Chat

The soaring share price isn’t based on any fundamentals though, just expectations of crony capitalism over in the USA.

I imagine there’s a quote from Buffet about investing in banana republics!

That said, given the bizarre albeit demoractic choice by the electorate in the USA, I am interested in what kinds of exploitative investment opportunities will arise from this. The orange man is never shy about having a list of people he likes and people he doesn’t.

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While the share price is still pretty detached from reality I do think the Trump win has a big impact on fundamentals.

100% important tariffs would basically ~kill the EV competition in the US (I don’t think the domestic producers are a big threat to Tesla).

With Hyundai, Kia, VW (+china) etc out of the picture then, price pressure lifts and auto margins can get back up towards where they started out, or at least stop the decline.

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Happily exited this dumpster fire after three yrs underwater. Just about broke even. Proceeds deployed straight into income producing stocks.

Best of luck to you all.

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I sold my position at the end of September this year, also after waiting years to reach my price target. Only if I could predict what happened this month :person_shrugging:

I still made a huge profit just because I bought it near “bankruptcy”. I feel sorry for the people buying at this valuation. I know Elon is an excellent marketeer, but some of the dreams he is selling are many years away…

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this didn’t age well

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:ox:

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-11-12/elon-musk-s-new-project-running-trump-s-us-government?utm_source=website&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=copy

Makes me smile he gets a huge share allocation from tesla!! Yet goes and gets a job in the government for efficiency… maybe give those shares back to tesla a good efficient way to save your company money if your going to bugger off on some cost cutting… personally i think it will blow back in his face and im a tesla fan

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Despite the criticism levelled at Musk, TSLA is still viewed as just a EV Car Manufacture despite all the information available about the Company, Whilst in reality it is So much more.
So while the others debate and argue amongst themselves on their individual perspectives of TSLA, I Personally will keep adding £ to this SO called Automotive Company. :+1:

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Seems he will have oversight of the govt department, with the other guy doing the grunt work.
There would seem to be a good few opportunities for Tesla to thrive under a Trump admin, even if they remove subsidies, Tesla is still by far the most or only profitable ev maker in the US, if tariffs increase they woukd seem to be in prime position on vehicles, thats before considering FSD, robotaxis, optimus and the storage businesses.

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Tesla trades at ~90x p/e vs eg Toyota ~8x and GM ~6x - to me that suggests that it is already viewed as something more than a car company, no?

I guess the questions are something like: Can Tesla be first to self-driving and dominate it? Can it charge a margin closer to 80% [edit: no idea why I typed something as specific as 89%!] than the current 20? Does the Elon narrative effect keep going in the next Trump chapter? (cutting 2T from gov budget seems like a tall order)

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The other thing is none of the major car companies are “just a car company” they all have fingers in multiple pies. How much other stuff does Mitsubishi make? or Honda?

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Yes, business owners cant simply vote for what they want in a democratic country. Tesla will probably appeal and then move the company out of Delaware to Texas where they can act with less interference.

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This should have passed as it’s what the company wants no matter how stupid, that’s assuming the board is independent which is isn’t.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdId8tXiJIo True - however this honest interview by Ford’s CEO made me realise how far behind the legacy car companies are, the internal cultural friction to change ect. I can’t find the exact quote but I remember him talking about how do they write code for their car when all the parts and it’s code/IP is owned by different companies. Even if they had the skill / resources… they outsource so much it’s hard to move forward. This chart may as well be Amazon’s worth vs book stores or Iphone vs nokia ect.

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