NS&I Premium Bonds

An update from the Chancellorā€™s Budget:

Anybody invested in these before, or will consider it in light of the upcoming app?

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The ā€˜cashā€™ element of my portfolio is in premium bonds. I donā€™t consider it an investment, more akin to ā€˜cash under the mattressā€™, except with the chance of winning something.

Interesting that people other than parents and grandparents can gift bonds to children as Iā€™ve always wanted to buy them for my nieces and nephews.

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Itā€™s worth bearing in mind that the nearest thing Premium Bonds have to an interest rate is an annual prize rate, which means ā€˜on averageā€™ the annual return is 1.4% ā€“ but in reality, this is just a vague benchmark and thereā€™s no guarantee youā€™ll win anything at all.

Have you found this to be true? Has your win rate translated into an annual return of ~1.4%?

And I agree, the gifting update is also an interesting development for sure.

I have an annual return of 0%.

But I also have an annual loss of 0%ā€¦ and a tiny chance to actually ā€œwinā€ biggerā€¦

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You have a net loss of 2 to 3 per cent, which you pay for the risk-free asset :wink:

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So itā€™s essentially a lottery with no downside risk other than inflation erosion.

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Thatā€™s exactly what it is.

On the contrary, my net gain is up by about 10% due to the fact it appeases my wifes desire to play the lottery :joy:

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Iā€™ve won a few small prizes this year but this works out at <1%.

I have had one year when it was over 2.5% but that was a one-off!

Yes, that what it is, plus any winnings are tax free.

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I think youā€™ve described most peopleā€™s experience with Premium Bonds. FYI, I hold around Ā£13k and have won 5 x Ā£25 prizes this year, so I guess Iā€™ve been a bit lucky!

As Iā€™ve mentioned before, itā€™s the only cash element of my portfolio, otherwise Iā€™d be 100% in equities, so Iā€™m fine to lose out a bit to inflation. These are funds I would tap into if in dire emergency.

Yes, I use this and as you say, itā€™s very basic, The updated app will probably be fully integrated with your account and allow you to buy more premium bonds without going via their website. Like you, Iā€™m not sure itā€™ll make a difference to me either as Iā€™m not planning on buying any more.

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Yes, fingers crossed! :smile::four_leaf_clover:#inittowinit

Have you considered Marcus by GS? With a 1.5% interest rate, youā€™d be looking at ~Ā£195 for the first year & ~Ā£175 thereafter at current rates.

Do you have Ā£13,000 in there because youā€™re happy with the trade off of potentially winning big over say a guaranteed interest rate on your cash savings?

Edit: how easy is it to liquidate Premium Bonds?

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Iā€™ve got a fair few PBs and this is the big plus for me as opposed to a cash account.

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Yes, this is the reason. From the calculator @PigeonStrangler posted, with average luck, I should win Ā£150 in a year so not that far off from sticking it in a Marcus account.

Liquidating them usually takes a few days as it can all be done online.

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Can anybody else match my winnings this month ā€¦

Ā£0.00p

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Snap! :smile::sob:

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I had a couple of grand in them from 2005 to 2007 and made a 10% return. Absolutely lucky.

edit: typo on the year!

Today I won 0.25% on the amount I have, canā€™t really convert it to annualized return yet.

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With shares still tumbling, itā€™s great to start the year with a Ā£25 win on the good ole premium bonds! :smile:

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Nothing for me at all last year :frowning_face:

Helloā€¦

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