Freetrade - Plus Lite

This has been mentioned before and is only a way to reduce the viability of Freetrade :+1: If they offered tiers then people would generally go for a lower tier with what they need. This would mean that FT need to make up the lost earnings elsewhere.

Many other brokers charge about Ā£5 a transaction so the Ā£10 is really not much at all and if you don’t spend much then there are MANY stocks in the free category still to buy. It is also probably a lot easier for FT to manage a business on 2 levels of plus-non plus than a wide variety of options.

Anyhow below is a link to the last time some-one mentioned it. :+1:

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The other way of thinking of it is that probably any one or two of the plus features should be worth the price to you, and then you get the other perks for free, which make the purchase seem even better. Much like when you buy other promotions, you might get a some freebies that you don’t really want. Would you expect to be able to say ā€œI don’t want these, can you take them away and lower the price more?ā€

If it’s not worth the cost to you, it’s not worth the cost, but that’s your choice to make, not a fault in the pricing structure.

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True and I guess people start using things they didn’t intend to when it is in the package. I know I now love the limit sells. And the ISA being a great way to keep customers as once they lock in they will stay for at least a year. :+1:

I know I was going to open an account with another provider to serve certain stocks I am less confident in investing on FT but it would be like buying 2 ISA accounts and only using 1 :man_facepalming:

A future note for those who search the forum before harping on about this idea again: it’s not going to happen. See the negative reaction in threads such as these and move on with your life. If you want access to Plus-only shares, subscribe to Plus for a month and then cancel it. You can do this every few months.

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They saying 10 is alot if your not making that much each month. For couple items that would be helpful.

Yes but if only buying such small volumes then there is thousands of other stocks you can buy for free :+1:

Put of curiosity how many trades per month do you make if you don’t mind sharing?

This.

Presumably the reason you want the wider range of shares is because you think you’ll be able to make more money than on the more popular shares that are included in the free account.

If you don’t think you can make Ā£10 a month more on these shares than something else, what’s the point in investing in them?

If you do think you can make Ā£10 a month more on these shares, then the cost of plus shouldn’t be the barrier to entry.

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Yer, I’m not saying your right or wrong and everyone knows freetrade have to make money to provide the service. But plus shares we still pay same rate for them as anyone else so since you know more than I do how come smaller shares are under plus.

It is clearly spelled out here :+1: and is more about markets than value of stocks. For example

Plus is everything in the free plan, and:

+ FTSE Small Cap (FTSE All-Share minus FTSE 350)

+ FT SE AIM All-Share ex AIM 100

+ S&P SmallCap 600

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It seems to boil down to the assumption that the OP thinks they can make more money from penny stocks than from the larger more established companies.

I blame reddit, twitter and youtube

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That’s a huge assumption there. I dont do any of these things, I don’t use social media at all. I’m hope not everyone on this forum is as ignorant and insulting as you are.

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The belief that penny stocks can make you rich, is not a new one.

I can remember penny stock ads in the back of comics 50 years ago. It has become much more prevalent with the advent of the internet, with reddit, twitter and youtube being the main culprits.

I’d even hazard a guess that most people that use trading apps are influenced by these social media sites in one way or another.

My comment was not meant to be either ignorant or insulting but just a statement of facts.

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Only you have mentioned penny stocks, I never mentioned it. You seem to be lumping me as someone into all this GameStop nonsense from the last few months. That is really wide of the mark.

The stock I wanted to buy was behind the plus paywall. I don’t do alot of buying and selling, i tend to buy and hold, so the Ā£10 a month is essentially a Ā£10 drain of profits, unless I stick Ā£4k, or cancel and hope I don’t need to buy any more plus stocks in the next 90 days.

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It wasn’t a fact though was it, given that you said the OP wants to trade penny stocks and they replied saying that wasn’t the case :joy:

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Isn’t saying ā€œGamestop nonsenseā€, insulting to those people here that hold this stock. A stock that is held by the vast majority of people who have joined freetrade this year.

The stock behind the paywall are mostly small cap stocks, Stocks that are by their very nature volatile in the prices. Maybe it’s my advancing years, but I use the name ā€œpenny stocksā€ as a catch all for all these small cap stocks, whether they are priced in pennies or pounds, (or even cents and dollars).

Like you, I too buy and hold. But having calculated the benefits of having a S&S ISA, and access to some of the small cap stocks / penny stocks, that have taken my eye, I don’t have an issue with it costing me 33p per day.

I’d be interested to know which stocks we are talking about before we decide if they are penny stocks or not.
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Maybe if we knew what stocks they were looking to buy, we might be able to offer an alternative that was accessible with the free account.

It’s nonsense because it was deliberate market manipulation, deliberately inflating stocks well beyond their true value, making a small number of people alot of money, and losing alot of money for most others.

You seem to be making a large number of assumptions there.

I’d be very careful continuing down that train of thought, as I’m sure you don’t want to be called a HF shill by anyone.
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To be fair your post history only comments on penny stocks of Greatland Gold and plus membership :+1:

I would also say many people who don’t watch you-tube etc are still affected by them as whatever did encourage them may/probably got influenced by this factor.

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