MEGATHREAD: Freetrade SIPP

The Sipp with Freetrade may make more sense for some than others but there’s no question it’s a competitive offering. For those with smaller pension pots - such as myself it is likely still cheaper to stick with current providers (in terms of pure cost - my current pension doesn’t let me have the same freedom of choosing my investments in the detail a Sipp gives you).

But if you have a larger pit with the kind of percentage you are talking about - then Freetrade’s Sipp will save a lot of money - anything over 20k in the pot at .65% would be a saving - and if the pot was 100k you’d save about 530 a year if my maths is correct.

I will still consider switching before it was empirically cheaper though as I would like the freedom to invest it the way I want, but probably not until my pot is much closer to 20k.

As I said it won’t necessarily be cheaper for every single person. What you have suggested may make it great value for you and myself (I have -a similar amount in my pension) in the short term - but would be much harder for Freetrade to become a viable longer term profit making business I imagine. 17 a month for Sipp, ISA and plus is pretty good and as plus gets much better it will be quite compelling I’m sure.

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No I think the confusion is what we’re basing the contribution on. It’s 20% of the gross amount but 25% of the net pay that you would put in.
I.e. by putting £8k in a SIPP, the top up (£2k) is 25% of the contribution but 20% of the gross (what you earned before tax).

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Will we claim the extra 20/25% through Freetrade or notify HMRC and then have them pay to Freetrade? It’d be nice if there was an automated process / simple workflow Freetrade could put together to help customers with this.

I know many workplace pensions take care of this aspect automatically, but maybe that’s just because they have visibility of tax status.

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… Id hope Freetrade would automatically. Im not moving my SIPP to a company that cant even claim my tax relief. Are there SIPPs where you have to do this yourself? Vanguard just does this for me every time i deposit money.

SIPPs do as well. I dont know of any where you have to claim the tax every time you deposit money.

I follow you- makes sense!

FT’s goal is to increase AUM - therefore their pricing makes more sense for bigger pots. Once you’ve got 100k+ it’s a lot cheaper.

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All SIPPs I know of do the 20% addition in an automated way but I’ve yet to see FT confirm this.

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In my experience the 20% standard is collected automatically, if however you are a higher rate tax payer you usually have to claim the rest (over 20%) yourself.

I imagine Freetrade to be the same.

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This was my question, I know the first 20% is mostly automatic but my work does the extra 20% (or 25% if you are lucky enough) automatically as well so I’ve never had to do it.

It’d be nice if Freetrade could simplify the process as much as possible or provide a simple guide if not. I imagine a lot of the Freetrade demographic are new to this.

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In a SIPP the second 20% or 25% always has to be claimed via a Self Assessment Tax Return.

In a lot of work pensions it doesn’t need to be claimed as the contribution is made before tax.

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Ok right, guess there is nothing that can be done then. Not sure where I got the idea that there was a way to claim without doing a full self assessment.

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Im with PensionBee and they claim 25% automatically for me as soon as I deposited on it. No issues. So need to know if FreeTrade are doing the same?

I wasn’t sure I was going to do a transfer but just worked out that I will save Ā£4 a month on fees (and rising as I continue to invest) if I transfer my HL SIPP so here’s hoping for a smooth transfer and looking forward to my free share!

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Where do we find the Origo forms for the fast transfer?

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I haven’t read all the posts so apologies if this has been answered.

The monthly subscription cost for the SIPP, will that be taken from a bank account or will it be taken from money inside the SIPP?

I believe it works like the other products, so bank account.

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Hi @stephen, the monthly subscription for the SIPP will that be taken from a bank account similar to Plus and ISA subscriptions.

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Hi @fire2045, we claim the 25% tax relief on behalf of the customer and deposit it in their Freetrade SIPP account.

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I get very jealous

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Hi,
Does anyone know how tax relief will work for the SIPP in Freetrade ?

Basic taxpayers should get 20%, whilst higher tax payers can get 40%.

Does anyone know how to get the tax relief in both cases ?

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